What it's like to be a ... lawyer

This post is in our series What’s it like to be…, giving a glimpse into the realities of certain jobs. Ever wondered what someone who works in marketing actually does all day? What are the lesser-known qualities you need to work in finance? What unexpected surprises does being a teacher hold? This series is here to help answer these questions! This week we’ve been having a chat with Philippa, a lawyer.

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What job do you do?

I am a lawyer. That is an umbrella which actually covers a wide variety of things: criminal, family, barrister, solicitor, human rights, in-house, private practice, government, you name it… I am an associate solicitor at a ‘Magic Circle’ corporate law firm. I have been there about seven years now, including training.

It is quite hard to narrow down what I do as my firm, fairly uniquely for its size, espouses a real ‘multi-specialist’ approach. This means you are expected to pick up and run with completely new jobs regularly. 

The plus side of this is that the work is constantly varied and fresh and interesting and you get to see the big picture (not just a narrow aspect of a deal you are working on); the downside is that you can feel like it is the first day of school again and often end up negotiating against lawyers from other firms who have been doing the same thing for years and have a lot more experience. It balances out though, and as you progress through the firm, a rounded experience becomes a real asset and we’re able to assess deals more holistically and always hit the ground running. 

Another feature is that my firm tends to do a lot of ‘big ticket’ work. That means you don’t get a lot of the smaller, often more repetitive, corporate jobs but get the bigger, more complex, more challenging, more interesting and more expensive ones! 

I do a lot of work in the Projects/Energy and Infrastructure space (think construction, airports, electricity).  This involves a lot of different aspects: competition, government/regulatory, construction, shareholder relationships, debt financing to name a few. I really enjoy and appreciate the variety (work is rarely dull) as well as seeing ‘behind the scenes’ of a lot of the things which we take for granted in day-to-day life (like the lights turning on, or our baggage arriving at a destination airport).

I also work in what I like to call the ‘marriage phase’ of corporate relationships: putting a deal together to build something new. A lot of this involves attending meetings and translating general good intentions into specific agreements. I don’t do any appearing in court.

If you prefer the ‘divorce phase’, when things have started to go a bit pear- shaped, disputes and litigation work may be for you… That's actually another good thing about 'multi-specialism': you can adapt to the changing needs of the market in boom and bust because, ultimately, it's all about the client and their business, not about the area of law.

How did you end up in that role?

A few reasons: 

Firstly, both my parents are lawyers so I always had it at the front of my mind and assumed (rightly or wrongly) that I might be predisposed to be good at it. There was certainly no family expectation that I would follow suit so this was quite a ‘soft’ driver and mainly meant I was more aware of what it involved. 

Secondly, I organised a fair bit of work experience for myself (mainly mini-pupillages with barristers' chambers, commercial and family, and did some clerking for a judge), all of which I found really interesting. I would definitely recommend spending a few days in a several areas of law to get a feel for what they do. 

Lastly, I studied Classics at university, which is very much a broad (sensing a theme here?) liberal arts degree and doesn’t have any particularly natural vocational ladder attached to it, so I researched a lot of options. 

I was pretty keen to train as a teacher at some point in my life but I decided, at the age of 21, that I didn’t really fancy going from school to university then back to school without trying something a bit further afield and out of my comfort zone first! It was also important to me to be financially independent, get some savings and maybe onto the property ladder. Self-sufficiency is a pretty big motivator for me: I didn’t want to be in debt or to be asking my parents for help. My firm offered a very competitive starting salary, paid for me to study law as a conversion degree, gave me the chance to do six months’ travelling in South America and then provided excellent on-the-job training, so it was very much a no-brainer for me.

What's your general working day like?

This is a bit of a trick question. There is absolutely no such thing as a typical day or week, which was and still is a major part of the attraction of my job to me. Having done this for the better part of a decade, going back to a ‘typical’ week might feel quite dull! I certainly don’t do any clock-watching. With 'Project' work, in particular, a deal can go on for several years so there are a lot of peaks and troughs during its life-cycle.

But as that is a cop-out answer, I will have a go: 

MORNING

I am (pre-Lockdown anyway) more of a morning person and a lot of my clients are based in Asia, so they’ve been working for several hours when I wake up. The alarm goes off early (ish) and I will roll-over and check my iPhone for all the messages which have come in overnight or over the weekend and get a feel for what is a priority and what can wait. Sometimes, if I am very unlucky, someone will have scheduled a conference call at 8am, which I will simply have to dive straight into from home in my pjs!

I will then usually walk into the office (based in the City of London), either dialled in to a meeting on my headphones or enjoying a podcast. Our official working day starts at 9:30, but everyone is pretty flexible: I try to be in well before nine, whereas others tend to get in later. There are no mandatory hours or a face-time culture at my firm so, providing you meet your work deadlines, you can set your own hours.

AT DESK

When I get to my desk, after the ubiquitous catch-up with my colleagues around the kettle in the ‘pod’, the day really starts. 

Typical tasks might involve drafting letters to a foreign government, advising on fuel supply contracts or how Coronavirus has impacted on contractual obligations to build or deliver something. I might also be drafting an agreement to deal with certain shared infrastructure between two neighbouring utilities, or updating the term sheet to reflect comments which have come in from the commercial team. There are a lot of sudden conference calls as new developments roll in.  I would catch up with any work experience students sitting with me, or my trainee, and offer feedback on their work, or discuss legal questions which have arisen with my colleagues. 

LUNCH AND EVENING

I try to go to the gym for an hour or so over lunch to stretch my legs and have proper screen break and then grab something to eat al-desko.  

It’s a bit of a myth that a corporate law job means you will never see your friends and family again or be able to make evening plans. I am pretty liberal about making evening plans (theatre, dinner with friends, pub quiz, choir rehearsal). Occasionally work demands mean I can’t make it, but more often than not I can work around it and it makes me more efficient and productive during the day. Thankfully, with a lot of my clients in Asia, they are in bed by the evening in London.

One of the real highlights of my job is the collegiate atmosphere: some firms have hours targets, which are linked to pay, so there is a perception that people can be quite competitive and precious about their time. That is not the case where I work and everyone is very happy to muck in together and help each other out with experience and ideas.

Is there anything you do in your job that you never expected you'd be doing?

I never in a million years thought I would qualify as a lawyer into one of my firm’s financing teams or enjoy doing banking work. Thanks to the ‘multi-specialist’ approach, financing absolutely does not just mean financing, and I have found myself with a much broader legal practice than I could have hoped for. I certainly never expected to be telling a Chief Engineering Officer of a company what his electrical connections are meant to look like… Although, it is quite flattering when a client thinks you are actually omniscient! 

I also didn’t expect to be attending awards dinners in swanky London hotels, or travelling to Jordan and Turkey for business meetings. Jordan was particularly noteworthy as we stayed for five days, visited Petra, Wadi Rum and the Dead Sea, before being given a tour of the River Jordan baptism sites by a lovely man who turned out to be the Jordanian Minister for Culture! Turns out we were VIPS.

A lot of the work is a lot more practical and pragmatic than I thought it would be: a lot of problem solving and dealing with commercial issues which crop up, rather than black-letter law and researching points of principle.

Is there anything you thought you'd be doing but you don't?

Reading enormous tomes of law. Don’t get me wrong, research plays its part (in some specialisms more than others), but in my line of work the knowledge of the law is almost assumed and you are rarely given the time to produce an essay on every question you get asked. Also, most of it is now available online so the dusty tome is a thing of the past.

Working all night. I think I have only pulled two real all-nighters in my working life. There have been some late ones, and some weekend work, but it has all been manageable and part of the ‘flow’ of a deal so you can usually see it coming and plan for it. If I make evening plans, I can usually go through with them.

Are there any qualities that you didn't realise you'd need for this job?

Confidence: showing it even when you don’t really feel it. At the start of any career you will look and sound young. So much of client (and colleague) trust is in the delivery and it really helps if you can fake it until you make it. No apologising in advance, or second guessing yourself. You’ve got this! No imposter syndrome allowed.

Resilience: the ability to separate work from life, keep perspective and move on (and learn) from your mistakes. We all knew the hours could be tough and the work demanding (both in terms of intellectual rigour and volume). But nothing prepares you for how first-class your colleagues are, how on-top of the details your clients can be, how many zeroes are on the end of the deal value number, and just how high the bar can be for quality of work. At the end of the day, everyone is human and the most important thing is reminding yourself of that occasionally, abandoning a bit of your perfectionism (and having a good laugh). Be aware, that it can also be very intense: if you are quite a sensitive person, have a life event, or know you cope badly with stress, talk to someone – my firm is very supportive. 

Professionalism: one aspect of the job I didn’t really appreciate before I began was just how much a part of the service industry this is. Just like a personal shopper, a barista, a personal trainer, or anyone else who provides a service for money, you expect your lawyer to be perfect, always available, always cheerful, always making you feel like you are their one and only client (despite the fact they have hundreds more…) A big part of the job is delivering that seamless service. Of course you develop personal relationships when you work for clients and with colleagues for a long time, but I would always recommend (unlike the hairdresser who has you as a captive audience for a massive overshare) keeping the client’s needs to the front and remembering who is paying.

Any words of wisdom for someone thinking of becoming a lawyer?

I would be a bit wary of ‘falling into’ the law. Have a real think about what you are good at, what you want from a job and where you see yourself a few years down the line. 

A lot of people study law or convert to law because they don’t have strong views about what they want and it keeps options open and provides you with great skills. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that, but do spend some time thinking about it first. While there is always a place for serendipity, I always think you want to be positive and intentional about making your life decisions rather than letting them be decided for you (and then serendipity can get in the way if it wants to).

That said, there are plenty of excellent ways to get work experience, including holiday vacation schemes from most large firms, which should allow you to talk to people and get a feel for what the job is like. 


How to raise tricky questions at work

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We’ve all read the statistic that women only apply for jobs if they meet 100% of the criteria, while men apply for jobs if they meet 60%, and this lack of self-belief can trickle into everyday working life, especially when raising tricky subjects at work. As someone who has asked for a pay rise (more than once), requested a change in job title, and even spoken directly to the CEO about a senior member of staff, I thought it may be of use to share my tips for raising these awkward, and potentially anxiety-inducing subjects. 

Adapt to the person you’re meeting

Whether you’re approaching your line manager, someone from HR, or a Director, think about where would be best for them to have this conversation. If they’re very formal, booking a boardroom or designated meeting space may be best. If they’re quite laid back and would respond to you better over a coffee, it can sometimes go in your favour to suggest a trip to a local coffee shop together; I once secured a pay rise in a Starbucks! 

Make sure they know why you’re meeting 

Continuing from the previous point – make sure the person you’re meeting knows why you want to see them. It’s not fair to blindside someone with a complex conversation if they thought they were being invited for a casual coffee. When requesting to meet with them, explain why you want this meeting, and if appropriate, also send a calendar invitation with the reason you’re meeting as the subject. They need to be prepared just as much as you do. 

Know your worth

You’ve managed to secure a meeting with this person, now is not the time to wobble and be vague about why you’re there. If you’re asking for a pay rise, go in there with specific numbers and evidence for why you deserve that. A while back I was taking on a lot of additional design work, so I worked out how much everything would have cost to outsource and took this to my manager. In just one month I had saved them over £1000; the numbers didn’t lie, and because of this I secured a retention allowance to recompense the extra work I was doing. These conversations can be really awkward, particularly when they’re about money, but you need to be bold! 

How does it impact on the organisation? 

Whatever you’re asking, you need to think how it will affect your workplace. If it’s a change of job title, how does it align with the company’s vision or strategy? If you’re asking for a pay rise, what’s in it for them - what extra output will you provide or have you been providing that benefits them, and means you should be paid extra?  If you’re requesting training that will be costly, how will the skills you gain benefit them? Think in terms of your workplace saying, “what’s in this for me?”, and go in prepared with that answer.  

Command the meeting 

It may sound obvious but go in knowing exactly what you want or need to say. I find it helps to take in notes, so I don’t forget any of the points I plan to raise. Write a few bullet points to make sure everything is covered; once you’ve got this person in a room you don’t want to risk missing anything out! Lead the meeting and make it clear why you’re there and what you want to talk to them about. 

Hopefully these tips will have given you some ideas to apply to your working life; if you don’t ask, you definitely will not receive, so go for it!

(Alice Irvine)

How to run a side hustle

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You spend hours sat at your desk dreaming of the day you can jack it all in to follow your creative dreams...

You have a job you love but it just doesn't tick all the boxes your multi-talented brain demands, leaving you feeling professionally unfulfilled... 

Covid has destabilised your industry and you need a back-up plan... 

Could the answer be a side hustle? 

Having a 'side hustle' (or being a multi-hyphenate) is one of the defining features of 21st-century work. More and more of us are starting up secondary projects outside of our main jobs – whether that's freelancing, running a small business or developing a creative project. For some people it might be the first step to growing a hobby into their full-time job. It might be a fun way to keep their brain or creative muscles engaged outside of their main work. Or for others, it's a crucial source of additional income. 

They're a great way to test the water in a new industry or role. Having a side hustle can be like dipping in your toe into an area that appeals to you, without wholeheartedly (and potentially riskily) taking the plunge – it's a way to test the viability of your dream. By starting small and minimising the risk to your livelihood, you can learn a lot about your ideas: e.g. gauge whether your business has legs (does anyone actually want your product?) or whether you actually enjoy working for yourself. But setting up a side project in an already busy life is no mean feat. So we chatted to several talented side hustlers to get the insiders' perspective and share their stories of challenges and rewards:

Maria Callaghan: I’ve been running my side hustle for the last few months, starting in March 2020. I help small businesses and side hustles with their Digital Marketing strategy, ensuring they are time-efficient and budget-friendly. I show people how to put their customer at the centre of their marketing and make sure they are showing up in the right places to attract their perfect customer. I’ve been doing this through coaching so far, but have some eBooks and workshops in the pipeline!

Sophie Winter: I don’t have just one formal side hustle: I juggle little bits of hustles which make me money. I take part in focus groups which are in person or online, where I can make between £50–150 a session depending on time and the task. I run a career blog which I’m currently rebranding – www.sophiewinter.co.uk – for other office workers and training accountants in their 20s such as myself, where I’ve made money by selling resources for £15/20 per person, so roughly make £50–60 a month from this. I was tutoring accounting for a bit and I still keep this up where I charge £20–40 per hour. The blog I’ve been doing on and off properly since March of this year. The accounting tutoring I’ve also been doing since earlier this year – I advertised myself as a tutor on Superprof and get students contacting me who wish me to help them with their studies.

Katy Davies: I run a graphic design and illustration business alongside my full-time job as a digital designer in-house for a company. I started my business during my uni days and have been doing it for around 5 years now! It's definitely been something I've focused on more during lockdown, even though I haven't actually been furloughed!

Samara recently took a course about starting a VA business. ‘I decided to have Pinterest marketing as a side hustle as I have been yielding very good results for myself. I now set up and maintain Pinterest accounts for clients on a monthly basis.’

Rachael Mole is the COO of The City Girl Network, a part-time role. 'It involves the running of the online magazine we have, volunteer management, in-house operations, organising and a lot of planning and strategy. I have been with The City Girl Network for 3 years but recently stepped up into this role. I was made redundant in June from my medical editing job, so had to think about how else to bring in income. Being able to dedicate more time to The City Girl Network has meant we are able to monetise it more effectively and dedicate time to working with companies on sponsorship and content advertising. I also run the blog Sick In The City, it’s newly launched and all about living in a city as a young and fun woman with a chronic illness – think accessibility, tips, insights and reviews for living your best chronic illness life. I started this while I have been furloughed over the past few months. Then there are also my proofreading and coaching services! I love writing and working with authors and wannabe authors! I have a proofreading service for novels, e-books, essays and any kind of long-form writing, and I have also branched out into coaching entrepreneurs on how to write their very own e-book, from planning, plotting, writing and motivation, to the best format for them to publish. By the time they are finished with me, they have a completed e-book ready to publish!’

Divya runs 'Super Moon London, an Etsy shop where I sell my handmade jewellery and hair accessories in bright and fun colours. I've been running it for just over 2 years, I started out while I was on maternity leave the first time around, working during nap times and I've grown it from there!'

Nicole Coltman’s side hustle ‘is an online interiors and gift store offering high quality products at affordable prices, giving my customers a personal shopping experience that you don't get at huge high street stores. I love getting to know my customers and chatting to them on social media.’

First tip, make sure it's something you really enjoy or feel passionately about – because after all, you're giving up your free time to do it. It shouldn't feel like a chore (at least not most of the time!). Digital marketing coach Maria hits the nail on the head: 'Make sure it’s something you love. Like really love. You’ll have to prioritise your side hustle over things you enjoy doing so it needs to be something you enjoy doing and are passionate about.'

Rachael has been making the most of lockdown: ‘My hobby during lockdown was building my blog, Sick In The City: for the moment this is a passion project on a subject I feel needs so much more insight and attention. But I would love to be able to monetise this and build it into a self-sufficient blog at the very least. I also love editing and proofreading! I have been a part of the writing and author world for over 9 years, I’ve written two novels and know how stressful writing your first book can be – even if it’s a 30K self-published non-fiction book about an area you’re an expert in. So working with aspiring writers is something I am also looking forward to being able to build as a side hustle.’

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Essentially you're now working two (or more) jobs, so time management becomes a priority. Side hustlers maximise productivity by being clever with time – commutes, children's naps and even standing in a queue all become opportunities to get something ticked off that list. 

Maria says, ‘I worked out where I spent my time and what I was wasting time on, and the first thing I did was reduce the time I spent mindlessly scrolling on social media (hard but so necessary!). I also multitask so I build my website whilst watching Catfish (completely addicted) and I listen to my podcasts while exercising so I still fit in the things I like to do. I try to be smart with my time, so I have a list of 5, 10 and 20 minute tasks that I can do standing in a queue, on my lunch break or in non-corona times on my commute to work!’

For full-time mum Samara, 'Organisation is key... having a side hustle means being organised and allocating time. So I wake up a little earlier and do a lot of my work when the kids are sleeping.' Divya started her shop whilst on maternity leave, and for her, it's about being clear where your priorities lie: 'I truly believe that we can find time to do anything we want to, it's just about setting your mind to it. If you have time to watch Netflix in the evenings you definitely have time to set up a side hustle!'

If you have time to watch Netflix in the evenings you definitely have time to set up a side hustle!
— Divya

Planning (as always) is the key to managing multiple demands on your time; you can lay the groundwork for future success by investing time early on. Nicole is currently on furlough from her job in menswear merchandising: ‘Being on furlough has given me time to really focus on my business that I didn't have before. When I go back to work, I know it will be a juggle, however I feel like I've done all the long-term planning and lots of hard work already, so it will get easier. I have an hour-long train commute to work every day so I'll be using this time to work on my side hustle.’

Rachael advises, ‘There is a lot to be said for planning, make sure you do your research and take your time planning and getting your resources and strategy in place. It took me 3 months to launch my blog but now I am in a place where it will take me two hours a week to keep on top of it for the rest of the year.’

Similarly, Maria suggests ‘Plan ahead. Particularly with marketing, you can automate and batch your content, from social to blogs to email marketing, in order to free your time up. It’s a no-brainer when you’re already pushed for time!’

But what about work/life balance with so much going on? 

I often close my work computer and then hop straight on my laptop until late, which can be exhausting, but I love it.
— Katy

Maria says: ‘You don’t need to do everything at once. My website launches in August which will be 6 months after I started coaching small business owners. I find doing things little and often helps me to sustain my energy and build a sustainable business.’

Rachael learnt to manage this balance the hard way. ‘Until around February this year, I really wasn’t very good at pacing myself. I ended up having a big energy crash which coincided with the emotional stress of Covid-19. A few weeks later I was put on furlough. Taking a few weeks off completely and using that time to really focus on healing, making space for rest and prioritising my health has meant that coming back into the world of full-time hours (made up of all the side hustle projects I’m doing), I know when to step back and take a break.' Still, 'working from home means it’s hard to switch off, so I always make sure the weekends are work-free and as screen-free as possible.’

But it's ok if sometimes a work/work balance is right for you! Katy: ‘I often close my work computer and then hop straight on my laptop until late, which can be exhausting, but I love it. I tend to schedule out my evenings for small tasks throughout the week, otherwise I could end up working til the early hours (and I have!).’

Growing your side hustle into your full-time job isn't compulsory – far from it. Some side hustlers can't afford to lose the income or security of their main jobs; others don't want to give up the support and social side of working for an existing company. And if you've started a side hustle for a bit of extra stimulation or income, you might just find that once you go full-time you start dreaming up another side hustle... 

Divya can’t wait to get there though: ‘I'd worked my way up to Super Moon London almost being my full time job just before my second maternity leave started and when that ended Covid-19 hit! It's back to being my side hustle again for now but I'm definitely working on getting it back up to being my main gig.’

On the other hand, Maria says she's ‘not in any rush. My aim is to grow my business slowly and sustainably over the next couple of years. Having a stable income is important to me, so my hope is to reduce my hours in my main job until I’m in a comfortable position to be able to run my side hustle full time.' Similarly, Katy: I would love to go full-time with my business! I have to-do lists the size of my arm and the thought of having a consistent schedule with it really appeals to me. Right now, I need the stability of a 'real' job, but one day the goal is to go it alone!’

Sometimes I’ve had 3 jobs at once – it’s just how I roll. I need to have multiple things going on in my life.
— Sophie

Nicole says not to overlook the benefits of company work: ‘I would love my side hustle to be my full-time job in the long term. That being said, I would like this to be within the next few years and not right now. I enjoy my full-time job working alongside other people every day. I feel like I am learning so much working and those skills could help me in my business going forwards.’ And for Samara it’s about finding the right time: ‘I would eventually like to earn a full-time income from my side hustle, but my children are young at the moment, so would like this to happen in a few years' time when they go to school.’

At the other end of the spectrum is multi-hyphenate Sophie: ‘I never see myself as being one of those individuals who becomes a full-time blogger. Even if my blog or side hustles made me money, I still would do my current job for a day or two a week but not full-time! I’m a social person, I’ve always had a job. Sometimes I’ve had 3 jobs at once – it’s just how I roll. I need to have multiple things going on in my life.’

Finally, we asked our side hustlers if they had any tips for people considering giving it a go…

Divya: ‘I have so many tips I'm not even sure where to start! I guess my main one would be there will always be a million reasons why you shouldn't do it, and there will never be a perfect time to start. So stop waiting and just get started. You'll learn so much along the way!’

Sophie: ‘1) Think what skills /type of person you are (i.e I’m quite opinionated and love writing so that drew me to get into blogging and do paid focus pressure group stuff ). 2) If there’s a side hustle you’re interested in reach out to people who are successful and ask for advice. 3) Keep researching. 4) Ask your friends if they can support you in any way.’

Sometimes I stop myself from starting things as I’m worried about failing. However, if you never try you will never be successful!
— Nicole

Katy: ‘My main tip is to not be too hard on yourself, it's easy to compare yourself with people that have invested for years into their business and who do it full-time. Your progress might be slower, but you'll get there in the end! 'Comparison kills creativity'.’

Rachael: ‘Do it! If you’re passionate about something, have the time to dedicate to it and the energy to see it succeed then go for it! There are so many ways to get started, and doing it in a way that you’ll be supported and motivated to succeed too. There are so many informative Instagram accounts, Facebook pages and groups- make sure you find the ones in your niche! Follow Pinterest boards that give you that boost of motivation and inspiration. Read books about others who have done what you want to do and learn from their mistakes, take their guidance and insight.’

Nicole: ‘I would say just go for it! And maybe talk to other girls within the same industry. (Friends are not always the best people to ask, remember they are not necessarily your target audience and mixed opinions on your side hustle can stop you from doing things.) Sometimes I stop myself from starting things as I'm worried about failing. However, if you never try you will never be successful!’